Talk:Art Show

The buttons at the top of the Edit window provide a way to enhance the text you are trying to enter. To put a URL in, for example, use the fourth button from the left with the globe on it. link title

To simply link to another page of this wiki use double brackets around the name of the thing you want to link to. Main Page

To link to another Mediawiki wiki use the name followed by a colon, Wikipedia:Main Page

--Bill Taylor 20:50, 10 Oct 2005 (PDT)

I've figured bold, italic, and links. I'd love to know how to do simple bulleted numbered lists without making the formatting break into separate boxes. I'm assuming the link I used is internal.

Another question: Which is preferred? Smaller linked pages, or fewer longer ones?

And how do you get it to put your name & the date in?

Bruce M. Miller (brucemoko)

hmmm... bulleted list is asterisks I think

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Name and date are the second button from the right, at the top. --Bill Taylor 21:55, 10 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Page length is mostly just "stay on topic". If it feels like more than one concise subject, it probably is and needs to be split down. Maybe just a sub-topic (two or more balanced equal signs around the topic heading), maybe by starting a new page. --Bill Taylor 22:01, 10 Oct 2005 (PDT)

I added some topic heading markup to the article. Change or delete as you see fit. To show levels, you would add more equal signs. If the article has enough sub-topics, the software automatically puts a table of contents in.

== Major == 2 equal signs === Moderate === 3 equal signs ==== Minor ==== 4 equal signs ===== Picayune ===== 5 equal signs --Bill Taylor 22:12, 10 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Thanks for the formatting and information. I won't spend much time on formatting until I get more content in.

One more question: Does Wiki do tables? Or do you have to include them as graphics? Which would be simple, but I hate doing it - the whole point of html is that it adjusts to your browser settings, and graphics don't.

I've got to break pages. "Art Shows" may be all one subject, but it's not concise. The art show timetable has 75 items in it. I've got 10 pages (in Word) just on forms (it includes samples), three on schedules, three on panel layout (not counting the appendix on crowding panels or anything about types of panels or methods of construction), etc.

Yet another question. I made edits. You said you made further edits. But I still see the original article when I link to Art Shows. The text I put in shows up when I edit it, though. Do I have to do something else to get my edits to show up? Is there just some sort of time delay?

The short unsatisfying answer is that yes, wiki markup does do tables, but it is a pain. Or at least I think so. Here is the page that describes it Wikipedia:How_to_use_tables. The question becomes, does it really need to be a table, or can a bulleted list do the job?

There is no time delay, but you may have to force refresh your browser. I just discovered that myself a few weeks ago. If the changes are "small" your browser decides it doesn't need to get a fresh copy of the page. do a Ctrl-F5 to force the refresh.

--Bill Taylor 22:59, 10 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Lisa - nice add on reasons for a show. --Brucemoko 21:55, 11 Oct 2005 (PDT)

A little help, please?

I'm trying a footnote. It's at the end of the "Your Customers" section, and you may notice that it doesn't quite work. It's sort of there, but the links don't work and the display of the footnote is hosed. What have I done wrong? Brucemoko

Omigawd!! Everything!!!

No, really I think your only real problem was a leding space. The tag has to start in the first column, or you get that odd colored box with dashed border. Sometimes you want that effect, but usually not.

• like this

* not this

I not sure you really want the footnote to appear where it does. Usually people want them at the foot of the page, not the foot of the section. But it should work either way. --Bill Taylor 23:34, 13 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Leading space. Right. I didn't even notice that there was one. But then, I wasn't looking for it; now I'll know to. Now it displays properly.

But the footnote links still don't seem to work in either FireFox or IE. I'd think that if the footnoted text was at the bottom of your browser page, and you clicked on the link, the page would scroll down to where the footnote was. Conversely, if the footnote was at the top of your browser screen, I'd think clicking on it would take you back to the text. Neither seems to happen.

As for where the footnote appears - yes, that's exactly where I want it. I have strong style opinions about footnotes. It should all be about reader ergonomics.

In general and in books: I like footnotes. I loathe and despise endnotes. A footnote is a minor digression (references or any other kind of footnote). It's put elsewhere to avoid breaking or complicating the flow of the text. Putting it at the bottom of the page makes it easy to digress and come back. Putting it at the end of the book makes it painful to digress and come back. Endnotes were only popular because they were so much easier to do than footnotes. But that was before computers - it's no longer an excuse. Granted, endnotes can make for a tidier presentation. I'll use them when I want my article to be hung in the art show, rather than having it convey information about art shows.

In particular: 1. This footnote deals with the "Your Customers" section. The end of the section is a logical place for it. Footnotes are often read as in-line text by people who didn't digress from the text. If you read it at the end of the article, instead of the end of the section, you'd have forgotten the context and it would make no sense. I consider end-of-article footnotes closer to per-chapter endnotes. You know what I think of endnotes. 2. This way you might be able to read it as a footnote without needing to follow the link and come back - a major benefit for anyone on a dial-up connection. (that's assuming the links actually do anything)

I thought you had used the wrong names for the tags, but that didn't fix anything. I even went over and stole the Wikipedia tags and used them exactly and that didn't work. I'm not sure why it isn't jumping like it ought to. The spelling and caps look right. The code looks good. --Bill Taylor 11:09, 14 Oct 2005 (PDT)